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 Post subject: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Hi guys,
I've installed this route, but cant get it to run. I've installed Xtracks 3.2, newroads 4, and scaleroads (all of them repeatedly), and run the installer (repeatedly). But when I try to run it, some shapes are missing. Route Riter reports literally hundreds of shapes missing. I do have all of the default routes installed.
Can anyone help?

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:45 pm 
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Did you make sure to open "INSTALLME" Batch file? If not, then open the batch file and it will install the missing shape files.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:48 pm 
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brucesim2003 wrote:
run the installer (repeatedly)


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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:49 pm 
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G'day Bruce

Did you download scaleroad from the 3dtrains forums? This is required for the route to work.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:52 pm 
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I've installed Xtracks 3.2, newroads 4, and scaleroads (all of them repeatedly), and run the installer (repeatedly).


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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:54 pm 
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Ok, what are some of the shapes RR reports missing?

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
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Here's part of the Route Riter report. However these are in the global/shapes directory.

Global Shape file a1t0_3mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t0_44mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t0_8mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t1_2mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t1_5mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t1000r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t1200r8d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t120r10d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t120r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t120r20d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t120r5d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t15_2mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t15_56mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t15000r0_5d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t1500r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t150mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t150r10d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t150r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t150r20d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t150r5d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t15mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t16_6mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t17_41mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t190r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t1mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t2_46mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t2_4mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t2_5mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t2_6mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t20_5mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t2000r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Global Shape file a1t200mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.

It is literally a couple hundred lines long.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:55 am 
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Global shapes missing indicates X tracks hasnt installed properly.
It does this to me sometimes.
Install X tracks to a temp folder and copy the shapes folder into your global shapes folder overwriting all files then ensure you have the most upto date tracksection .DAT file.
Copy and overwrite the old in the global folder.
Try that and get back to us for feedback.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:41 am 
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Hi Guys,

Mrdriver wrote:
Global shapes missing indicates X tracks hasnt installed properly.
It does this to me sometimes.
Install X tracks to a temp folder and copy the shapes folder into your global shapes folder overwriting all files then ensure you have the most upto date tracksection .DAT file.
Copy and overwrite the old in the global folder.


Done this. No change. Took a note of what trainsim was complaining about, and it seems that it might be one missing texture file, namely 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE'. I did a dummy install of scaleroads, and there are other files with similar names e.g. 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LT.ACE' or 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LW.ACE', but no 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE'. There is no such file anywhere in my msts folder, or in the scaleroads folder. Re-dl'ed scaleroads, but no change.
So it seems that I need to know where to get a copy of SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:52 am 
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Hi Bruce,
I have Scale roads and I run the MNB route fine. However, I do not have a copy of the file you mentioned in your post on my computer, so I question the conclusion that that is the file causing the problem. Try copying one of the other "SR xxxx" files you mention and then rename the copied file to the one you seem to be missing. See what happens.
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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:16 pm 
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Hi Allan,
I've done as you suggest, and the problem disappears - for a while. Then it cant find another texture - 'SR_Road_Hiway_Guard.ace'. One again, this is NOT in the scaleroads install. I've dl'ed scaleroads multiple times, installed into a dummy folder, and these textures are not there. Is there another component that needs installing that I dont have, and is not listed?

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:28 pm 
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Very interesting Gentlemen,

I reinstalled the Route and found that 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE' and 'SR_Road_Hiway_Guard.ace' were missing from the Route's Texture Folder.

I copied similar ace files and renamed the copies 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE' and 'SR_Road_Hiway_Guard.ace'
The new install runs OK now.

My original install of the Route had those ace files in the Route's Texture Folder.
Not sure if I had to substitute those ace files or not.

I originally downloaded the AU_SA_Mid_North_v1_MSTS1_Setup.D01 and the AU_SA_Mid_North_v1_MSTS1_Setup files.

I use Vista on my PC.

Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:29 pm 
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So no-one can tell me what the problem is? Or rather where to get the correct textures?


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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:10 pm 
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Hi Bruce,
I am a little miffed in the statement "So, no-one can tell me.... ". You have had several very prompt replies which have started the process, and at this stage neither you nor we know what the problem is.

1. I have the MNB route installed and running. I do not have the problem and therefore I cannot replicate it. That makes it hard because I can only second guess what routes you have, what downloads you have etc, etc, etc, etc.
2. I do not have the files that are "missing" from your computer on my computer. So why does my MNB route work and yours does not? The immediate conclusion (rightly or wrongly) is that the MNB route is not the cause of the problem or perhaps your SR download is a different version. I have no way of telling yet. I doubt it, but Vista has caused some impossible problems including several people who cannot even run MSTS what OS are you running?
3. You provided MSTS with a file that it says is missing. It then said "Yeah, well here's another one that's missing". Now that might go on for ever, and the very next file that you "provide" may satisfy it - I have no way of telling that, and your expectation that I can is not helpful!

I suggest that you "Move - not Copy" the MNB route to another location temporarily, well away from MSTS. Then start MSTS and ensure that every other route works correctly. I am going to run Route Riter over my copy of the route and see what I come up with.

Please do that and come back to us.
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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:11 pm 
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In the copy of the route I have from prior to the release, there are no textures with these names. So there's not much of chance that Route Riter would've accidentally eliminated them during packaging. Have you tried copying existing scaleroad textures, and renaming them to match the ones it asks for?

It sounds as if only a handful of people are experiencing this problem. Can you load the route anywhere? Are you getting these error messages everywhere?

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:24 pm 
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Hi

Have had this route installed for awhile, have had no problems whatsoever. Try a clean install of everything required for this route. Don't have texture file 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE' either, don't know how you picked this up. I downloaded Scaleroad Public Beta 1.75 and put in a temporary folder, it does not contain the texture 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE'. Like I said try a clean install of everything.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:48 pm 
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Hi Bruce,
I have just run RR over my route and it has come up with "No errors"

Therefore what I have on my computer is different from yours and I can only conclude at this stage that it will be the addons - Scale Roads and/or Xtracks. Repeatedly installing a file that is the wrong version or corrupted in the download will not solve anything.

Please re download Scale Roads and Xtracks. Install a fresh copy of the route and then install the SR, Xtracks and new roads, and then the rolling stock.

Keep us informed how you go. Eventually we will crunch the problem.
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Allan


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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:05 pm 
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sarfan39 wrote:
Please re download Scale Roads and Xtracks. Install a fresh copy of the route and then install the SR, Xtracks and new roads, and then the rolling stock.


This I have done, repeatedly. This is my setup as it stands atm:-

Quadcore 2.4Ghz
3.5gb ram
Nvidia 8800gts 512mb
Windows XP SP3

MSTS Bin 1.8
X-tracks 3.2
Newroads 4
Scaleroads 1.75 beta
Some gui mods
some SAR rolling stock
Adelaide, hills and south-east route
Barossa route
no other addons atm

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:55 pm 
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I have almost the same setup execpt for the graphics card which is a Radeon 4870 and I have had no troubles with the Barossa or any other route. have you tried removing MSTS entirely, routes and all and reinstall. I have had MSTS do some EXTREMELY strange things in my case apparently caused by the graphics card driver which has only responded to a complete removal and reinstall. NOTE: Not just a reinstall but remove and reinstall.
To make reinstalling easier I have made an original, ie unused, back copy of the routes,trains and consists directorys and just restore these after doing an install to the document on installing from the steam4me site. I do not know if I have the names right here as I am not on my windows machine.

But usually MSTS performs very well its just that the Radeon driver does not like you playing around with antialliasing and such like, must try and swap windows to my Nvidia machine and give it a go.


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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
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Yep, I have to agree that msts has a 'personality'. I have literally started from scratch. No change. Frustration levels are ascending at a rapid rate. Renaming alternate files aleviates the problem, but doesn't actually provide the real textures, which must have been there when the route was built.

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:46 pm 
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Hi Bruce,
This is not being easy to solve.
You say that " provide the real textures, which must have been there when the route ....". You clearly have not picked up what I have said.

I have the route and the textures you are having a problem with are not part of the route.
They do not form part of the route - never were and never will be. If they were, I would be getting errors. The author of the route has also stated that these files are not part of the route. Please comprehend this and we can try to move forward.

Have you moved the route out of MSTS as I asked? What effect did this have?

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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
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Sorry Allan, sometimes takes a few kicks to get things through.
As I've said, started a complete rebuild, msts still bleats.

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Bruce


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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:39 am 
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'mornin' Bruce,
Let's know how you go. This sort of problem is so often a corrupt download. Time will tell. It may be beneficial to keep a log of the details (version, date etc) and the chronological order of all addons installed. Just thinking ahead.
MSTS - Update - Test routes! - Bin 1.7 - Test routes! - xtracks - test routes - new roads - test routes - scale roads - test routes - add Adelaide route - test - take backup of install - install rolling stock for MNB route - test them - install MNB route - check fan for residue, heh, heh.
Seriously, I would use that as a blue print for the install. Testing between each install is mandatory - ensure the integrity of each install before moving on.
Hope this helps
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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:25 pm 
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evenin' Bruce,
How are you going, mate?
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Allan


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 Post subject: Re: SA Mid north missing shapes
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Sorry Allan, been a bit run of my feet today. I'll get back to you in a couple of days.

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