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Hi guys, I've installed this route, but cant get it to run. I've installed Xtracks 3.2, newroads 4, and scaleroads (all of them repeatedly), and run the installer (repeatedly). But when I try to run it, some shapes are missing. Route Riter reports literally hundreds of shapes missing. I do have all of the default routes installed. Can anyone help?
Here's part of the Route Riter report. However these are in the global/shapes directory.
Global Shape file a1t0_3mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t0_44mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t0_8mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t1_2mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t1_5mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t1000r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t1200r8d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t120r10d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t120r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t120r20d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t120r5d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t15_2mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t15_56mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t15000r0_5d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t1500r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t150mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t150r10d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t150r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t150r20d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t150r5d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t15mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t16_6mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t17_41mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t190r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t1mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t2_46mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t2_4mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t2_5mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t2_6mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t20_5mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t2000r1d.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes. Global Shape file a1t200mstrt.s is missing from your route, no alternative is available in the other installed routes.
Joined: Sat May 17, 2008 12:50 pm Posts: 738 Location: Brisbane
Global shapes missing indicates X tracks hasnt installed properly. It does this to me sometimes. Install X tracks to a temp folder and copy the shapes folder into your global shapes folder overwriting all files then ensure you have the most upto date tracksection .DAT file. Copy and overwrite the old in the global folder. Try that and get back to us for feedback.
Global shapes missing indicates X tracks hasnt installed properly. It does this to me sometimes. Install X tracks to a temp folder and copy the shapes folder into your global shapes folder overwriting all files then ensure you have the most upto date tracksection .DAT file. Copy and overwrite the old in the global folder.
Done this. No change. Took a note of what trainsim was complaining about, and it seems that it might be one missing texture file, namely 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE'. I did a dummy install of scaleroads, and there are other files with similar names e.g. 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LT.ACE' or 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LW.ACE', but no 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE'. There is no such file anywhere in my msts folder, or in the scaleroads folder. Re-dl'ed scaleroads, but no change. So it seems that I need to know where to get a copy of SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE.
Hi Bruce, I have Scale roads and I run the MNB route fine. However, I do not have a copy of the file you mentioned in your post on my computer, so I question the conclusion that that is the file causing the problem. Try copying one of the other "SR xxxx" files you mention and then rename the copied file to the one you seem to be missing. See what happens. Cheers Allan
Hi Allan, I've done as you suggest, and the problem disappears - for a while. Then it cant find another texture - 'SR_Road_Hiway_Guard.ace'. One again, this is NOT in the scaleroads install. I've dl'ed scaleroads multiple times, installed into a dummy folder, and these textures are not there. Is there another component that needs installing that I dont have, and is not listed?
Hi Bruce, I am a little miffed in the statement "So, no-one can tell me.... ". You have had several very prompt replies which have started the process, and at this stage neither you nor we know what the problem is.
1. I have the MNB route installed and running. I do not have the problem and therefore I cannot replicate it. That makes it hard because I can only second guess what routes you have, what downloads you have etc, etc, etc, etc. 2. I do not have the files that are "missing" from your computer on my computer. So why does my MNB route work and yours does not? The immediate conclusion (rightly or wrongly) is that the MNB route is not the cause of the problem or perhaps your SR download is a different version. I have no way of telling yet. I doubt it, but Vista has caused some impossible problems including several people who cannot even run MSTS what OS are you running? 3. You provided MSTS with a file that it says is missing. It then said "Yeah, well here's another one that's missing". Now that might go on for ever, and the very next file that you "provide" may satisfy it - I have no way of telling that, and your expectation that I can is not helpful!
I suggest that you "Move - not Copy" the MNB route to another location temporarily, well away from MSTS. Then start MSTS and ensure that every other route works correctly. I am going to run Route Riter over my copy of the route and see what I come up with.
Joined: Mon May 19, 2008 8:07 pm Posts: 169 Location: Pushing a stalled VR S class steamer up a steep 1 in 609446 gradient
In the copy of the route I have from prior to the release, there are no textures with these names. So there's not much of chance that Route Riter would've accidentally eliminated them during packaging. Have you tried copying existing scaleroad textures, and renaming them to match the ones it asks for?
It sounds as if only a handful of people are experiencing this problem. Can you load the route anywhere? Are you getting these error messages everywhere?
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:01 pm Posts: 35 Location: Adelaide
Hi
Have had this route installed for awhile, have had no problems whatsoever. Try a clean install of everything required for this route. Don't have texture file 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE' either, don't know how you picked this up. I downloaded Scaleroad Public Beta 1.75 and put in a temporary folder, it does not contain the texture 'SR_ROAD_RURAL_2LC.ACE'. Like I said try a clean install of everything.
Hi Bruce, I have just run RR over my route and it has come up with "No errors"
Therefore what I have on my computer is different from yours and I can only conclude at this stage that it will be the addons - Scale Roads and/or Xtracks. Repeatedly installing a file that is the wrong version or corrupted in the download will not solve anything.
Please re download Scale Roads and Xtracks. Install a fresh copy of the route and then install the SR, Xtracks and new roads, and then the rolling stock.
Keep us informed how you go. Eventually we will crunch the problem. Cheers Allan
Please re download Scale Roads and Xtracks. Install a fresh copy of the route and then install the SR, Xtracks and new roads, and then the rolling stock.
This I have done, repeatedly. This is my setup as it stands atm:-
Quadcore 2.4Ghz 3.5gb ram Nvidia 8800gts 512mb Windows XP SP3
MSTS Bin 1.8 X-tracks 3.2 Newroads 4 Scaleroads 1.75 beta Some gui mods some SAR rolling stock Adelaide, hills and south-east route Barossa route no other addons atm
I have almost the same setup execpt for the graphics card which is a Radeon 4870 and I have had no troubles with the Barossa or any other route. have you tried removing MSTS entirely, routes and all and reinstall. I have had MSTS do some EXTREMELY strange things in my case apparently caused by the graphics card driver which has only responded to a complete removal and reinstall. NOTE: Not just a reinstall but remove and reinstall. To make reinstalling easier I have made an original, ie unused, back copy of the routes,trains and consists directorys and just restore these after doing an install to the document on installing from the steam4me site. I do not know if I have the names right here as I am not on my windows machine.
But usually MSTS performs very well its just that the Radeon driver does not like you playing around with antialliasing and such like, must try and swap windows to my Nvidia machine and give it a go.
Yep, I have to agree that msts has a 'personality'. I have literally started from scratch. No change. Frustration levels are ascending at a rapid rate. Renaming alternate files aleviates the problem, but doesn't actually provide the real textures, which must have been there when the route was built.
Hi Bruce, This is not being easy to solve. You say that " provide the real textures, which must have been there when the route ....". You clearly have not picked up what I have said.
I have the route and the textures you are having a problem with are not part of the route. They do not form part of the route - never were and never will be. If they were, I would be getting errors. The author of the route has also stated that these files are not part of the route. Please comprehend this and we can try to move forward.
Have you moved the route out of MSTS as I asked? What effect did this have?
'mornin' Bruce, Let's know how you go. This sort of problem is so often a corrupt download. Time will tell. It may be beneficial to keep a log of the details (version, date etc) and the chronological order of all addons installed. Just thinking ahead. MSTS - Update - Test routes! - Bin 1.7 - Test routes! - xtracks - test routes - new roads - test routes - scale roads - test routes - add Adelaide route - test - take backup of install - install rolling stock for MNB route - test them - install MNB route - check fan for residue, heh, heh. Seriously, I would use that as a blue print for the install. Testing between each install is mandatory - ensure the integrity of each install before moving on. Hope this helps Cheers Allan
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