Hi supergoods,

The dimensions for the new V class boiler were pretty much the same as when built.

Only the spec changed with the replacement of the original steam dome with a similar type as used on the (then) brand new A2 locomotives. The original 'pop' type safety valves were also replaced with the Ramsbottom type, sitting atop the outer firebox crown sheet, just forward of the cab. The safe working pressure of the boiler was also raised to 180PSI with the new boilers, hence larger capacity.

Hope this helps

L.

You mean lowered as the original pressure was 200psi and when they were rebuilt as simples it was lowered to 180 as to keep the tractive effort similar.

Indeed you are correct, Russ!

It shows that you have been reading the pages I sent you from "The Bible" more than I have!

That'll teach me!

Ahh Chromie I am but just an amateur that is correct sometimes.

Indeed. The pressure drop was certainly as there was no longer 2 small diametre high pressure cylinders to feed. Being a normal simple engine with larger diametre cylinders doesn't require as much pressure for the same results.

Anyway.

Cop these screenies!


V499 crosses Taradale Viaduct with a Race Special to Melbourne.


Two red V's with a short roadside goods on Malmsbury Viaduct. The second V was attached as a loco balancing movement.


The same train on the Up side of Malmsbury Viaduct.


The V's certainly are a nice engine to drive, and should be a part of all VR MSTS users' loco roster upon release from the Workshops - sensational loco.

wonder why they werent left hand drive? it would be real difficult driving a left hand train on right hand railways .. harder than it is driving left hand cars on right hadn roads

Probably because that was the Baldwin Standard and LHD would have been extra cost, the same with the Phoenix Foundry built batch, build off the Baldwin drawings without unecessary changes.

In UK there was, right up the end of steam a mix of RHD & LHD locos although the final standard was LHD very few locos were converted. The only large conversions were the early LNER A3 Pacifics which were RHD were converted to LHD.

Each railway company had its own standards and sighted its signals accordingly.

If a loco which was driven from the different side to that which the signals were sighted, there could be problems and the fire man needed to sight the more difficult signals for the driver.

The J & A Brown ROD 2-8-0's are also RHD

Remember that any loco travelling tender first is being driven from the "wrong" side.

Drivers therefore had plenty experience of it and he would know where he needed the fireman's assistance for sighting.

Correct there, supergoods.

I have just looked at copies of the general arrangement diagrams for the W and S class locos that were built by Baldwin, and later copied by Phoenix Foundary in Ballarat. The diagrams' show that the W and S class were right-hand driven. The nA's are also right-hand drive, and oddly enough, so were/are the two narrow gauge G class Garratt locomotives built by Beyer-Peacock. I should imagine that the two early D class 4-4-0's built by Rogers of New Jersey, USA, most likely also followed American practice of being driven from the right.

As far as I am aware these, and the V class were the only VR steam locomotives to be right-hand driven.

I was looking at the plans for them about an hour ago, had I known I could have checked.

Building the Garrats as RHD makes sense as all the Na's were RHD and they operated on isolated systems together.

I doubt any more designs for narrow gauge steam locos were even considered

Now released in the steam locomotive section.

Hi Russell,
Thanks for sharing these nice locos and the wagon pack with us.
Great work.
Regards Geoff.

Thanks Geoff it took a while but the end result was worth it.
But bad that it has had 30 odd downloads but only one thanks though!

Great work Russell, the level of work on the V class and the horse wagons along with the old explosive van is amazing , attention to detail on the models is superb

Keep up the hard work

Hi Russell,
Thanks for another first rate model of your typical high quality of workmanship.
These models are much appreciated
Thanks again

Many thanks for releasing a less than common loco, it's a great pleasure to be simming outside the square!

hello, im just wondering if these locos are in any way related to QR's c17s because they look remarkably similar

Negative.

In Chrome Bullet's absence - the V class was a pretty standard Baldwin design; the C17 was I'm pretty sure a homegrown QR design.

They were built for two separate companies in two different eras.

I'd go so far to say that, if there is any loco the VR V resembles in any way, it's the NSWGR 'Big J' J(483) 2-8-0s. My uneducated opinion from looking at various photos and such says to me that the boiler is pitched higher on the J, among other things, but the rolling chassis and tender are almost identical.

Showing my utter pig-ignorance of NSWGR steam; they were also Baldwins? Were they something like a 23 class or some such later on?

Notch, the Big J was the 29 class, little J's were the 28 class, and the real J's were Victorian.

Some of the little J's (colloquially known as the 'Native Bears' as they were locally built) were built to similar design to the imported Little J's but numbered amongst the X10 series. The mechanical particulars were similar but they differed in external detail. Interestingly the local products were built with Baldwin design tenders.

The Bergs model of the 29 (Big J) in final form:

The 29 is, in essence, the freight version of the 23. Much like the Ps and Ts (32s and 50s), in fact they were ordered to compare the types. Some authors (and some NSWGR correspondence, in a roundabout way) suggest that the Baldwin locos were actually better performers, however political forces of the time (tied in with an accident blamed on the 23, but a track problem was the reality) demanded the British locos be built in greater numbers. Oddly enough, a batch of 20(?) 32s were built by Baldwin. The 23s were well-liked out West, where post-accident they were banished, due to the fully compensated running gear.